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Old Dec 24, 2009, 03:59 PM // 15:59   #21
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I feel quite the opposite. Personally, I think pve skills #1, should be buffed, or elite skills added to Vangaurd, Dwarf, ect. (like the Norn) #2, I think it would be great for heros to use pve skills. You know how when u have more than 3 pve only skills 1 gets kicked out? They could do that for uw, fow, etc. "Heros cannot use PvE only skills in elite missions."
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 04:01 PM // 16:01   #22
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PvE skills are too powerful as they are. If anything, they need to be nerfed
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PvE skills are too powerful as they are. If anything, they need to be nerfed
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 04:01 PM // 16:01   #23
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Actually, one tangent we could go on...

We don't give heroes PvE skills. Instead, give each hero a unique skill based on their background. Jora gets bearform (the Norn version, that is - possibly a weakened form, explained by her only JUST getting it back), Pyre gets Gloat, some of the Nightfall heroes might get a Sunspear skill each (at a fairly low rank, NOT the rank of the player), and so on. It'd need to be carefully done so that you don't get people deciding that a hero is better than a player more than absolutely necessary, but it could serve to add some individualism to the heroes.
best idea yet...but umm, only one factions hero...

anyways, i vote for this being imlemented and discord getting nuked to the underworld.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 04:51 PM // 16:51   #24
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Of course Heroes should be able to use PVE skills there isnt really any reason not to.

Some say pve is too easy already, ok yes with experience most of the pve is easy but it always was, right from day one if you had a good team it was a breeze.
Its easy enough now with boring specialised builds, boosting the heroes skills would enable it to be easy in more interesting ways.

Encourage solo play, so what
Much of the game has to be played solo since the long time players are doing other things and you have a small number of new players trying to find parties and guilds to get through the game for the first time.

With decent heroes 2 new players could form a complete party using 3 heroes each and enjoy the game.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 04:53 PM // 16:53   #25
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WHAHAHAH

What's up, you dumb noob? Pve is not too easy for you?
Pathetic lame idiot.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 05:26 PM // 17:26   #26
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Of course Heroes should be able to use PVE skills there isnt really any reason not to.
It would be nice if someone who supports this would reply to other people in this thread (including the first page).
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 05:47 PM // 17:47   #27
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Actually, one tangent we could go on...

We don't give heroes PvE skills. Instead, give each hero a unique skill based on their background. Jora gets bearform (the Norn version, that is - possibly a weakened form, explained by her only JUST getting it back)...
That's actually the only reason why I ever consider giving hero's pve skills. I really want to see my Jora using Ursan or Bear Form. But other than that..../meh. Heroes can have really powerful builds as is, but yes it would be interesting to see them doing something unique to their race, culture, or what have you. Vekk with Pain Inverter? /overpowered, Vekk with Technobablle? Could be fun.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 08:08 PM // 20:08   #28
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WHAHAHAH

What's up, you dumb noob? Pve is not too easy for you?
Pathetic lame idiot.
On the contrary, I would (along with most of you posting here) say that PvE is too easy, even in HM. Most of you are saying it will just make the game easier; but, ask yourself this: if they did make this change, would you use these skills?

If you said yes, you're a hypocrite. If you really believe it would make the game too easy for you, then don't use PvE skills at all. Not only that, but if the game is already too easy, then be a MAN and go into HM with only 4 skills, none of which are elites.

My point is that you people want the game to be harder, and so do I, but you have to find ways to make the game harder if that's what you want. You don't HAVE to take PvE skills if you don't want to.

I do agree that PvE skills should be banned from elite missions, and being able to give your heroes only 1 PvE skill seems less ridiculous. But, for me, having 4 Ebon Vanguard Sniper Supports and watching enemies die randomly would be most amusing.

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Old Dec 24, 2009, 08:41 PM // 20:41   #29
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Yay, another one of these.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/g...tml?t=10270583
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/h...tml?t=10339097
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/g...ght=pve+heroes
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 09:40 PM // 21:40   #30
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/signed. Along with 7 heroes.

Why? Not because the game is too hard for me, its because ANet is effectively killing off pugging with the Ursan nerf, and now probably going to kill it off more with the upcoming SF nerf and/or 600Smite nerf.

I want 7 heroes + PvE skills because I don't want to get locked out of fun areas without guildies around.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 10:11 PM // 22:11   #31
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/Not signed.

Why?
I feel that if teams want to Benefit from PvE skills they should play with other players. Though the idea of an Imbagon Hero or an ER hero spamming GDW does sound nice, I like the fact that when you play in a team of 8 competant players, the game is far easier than with heroes.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 11:54 PM // 23:54   #32
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Why?
I feel that if teams want to Benefit from PvE skills they should play with other players. Though the idea of an Imbagon Hero or an ER hero spamming GDW does sound nice, I like the fact that when you play in a team of 8 competant players, the game is far easier than with heroes.
The problem is...what players? Every area in the game is now devoid of players because the majority of players only wants to farm. So ToA is the only area that is jam packed while everywhere else is empty except for solo farming areas. Without an extremely active guild people are stuck doing ONE area with ONE gimmick build (which would also be gone once the nerf comes along), and even that would get boring after a while.

Since Anet doesn't want to revamp more areas so that they become more popular and pug friendly, 7 heroes + PvE skills doesn't seem too bad in comparison.
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 12:17 AM // 00:17   #33
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WHAHAHAH

What's up, you dumb noob? Pve is not too easy for you?
Pathetic lame idiot.
Christmas time is not an excuse for being dumb.

I always love the "but that'd make the game too easy!" argument.
It's not like you can have full parties of humans, each with 3 pve skills, right?
Doesn't THAT make the game too easy?
Wake up, not an excuse for being dumb.
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 12:29 AM // 00:29   #34
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No, this would encourage more solo play.
So?
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 12:31 AM // 00:31   #35
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As MisterB said. Not a new idea.

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